For those of you who like me were horrified to see Salcombe's Cable Cottage demolished I have some good news!
The replacement building is set to occupy the same footprint and be built in the same style as the cottage we all know and love. The original plans were to renovate the existing building which was in severe need of attention and demolish the flat roofed garage (with it's asbestos problems) and extension, which were to be replaced by a granny annexe. When structural engineers investigated they found a severe risk of ground floor flooding and walls that were coming away from the building. The new owners had no choice but to demolish and start again.
I have uploaded a planning doc which outlines the planning process they have been through which is quite an interesting read.
For me this is a very positive piece of development which Salcombe should welcome, it will hopefully see a great new building which resembles strongly the the original Cable Cottage. However, the best piece of news is that it is to be a home and not a second home! The new owners should be congratulated for the thought and care they have put into the plans and not just replacing it with a glass box accompanied by a flat roof, ( a style which I don't dislike but they have to be in the right place).
I can't wait to see the finished product.
Sunday, 8 November 2009
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Yes, really a good news.
And hope good luck to everybody.
I think you will find the owners live in Gloucestershire and this is their Salcombe second home. If it's to be let for holidays (as with many other Salcombe second homes) it will probably generate more money for the local economy than most full time residents do. Most "locals" buy their groceries from Tesco at Lee Mill or Morrisons in Kingsbridge, don't drink in local pubs, don't spend money in local restuarants or buy in the trendy clothing shops!
The planning application clearly states that it will be their main residence...
They would tell the planners that wouldn't they!!(In the mistaken believe that this may make the planners more amenable). There is of course no legal requirement to live in any property permanently. Let's keep an eye on the finished property - unlikely to see many people there in the Winter!!
OOkevin, depends what you mean by local, like local housing, anywhere else would consider Kingsbridge to be local. I am local and do my best to support Salcombe businesses, although I am coming round to the opinion that some of them are not particularly concerned whether locals trade with them or not.
I also note that many owner developers of Second homes don't like to be considered as visitors, the conversation goes along the lines of "Are you going to live here?" "Yes, we are going to be half and half between Salcombe and London", this does not usually prove the case, August and a half dozen weekends does not a half year make!
Give the guys a break....its their house and they are doing a damn good job of reinstating something that was on the brink of collapse with their own millions.
Now I dont remember seeing any complaining local pulling their finger out of their moaning as.es and doing the same.
I forgot its cheaper to just sit there and complain....jeolousy springs to mind!
I say congratulations to them. Maybe some of the locals should think about tidying up their own homes before they make comments on other peoples complete rebuilds, eh
Lets not start this one again it cuts both ways but -
I appreciate alot of original Salcombe folk would like to see every house occupied by local people 24/7 but in reality thats not going to happen but had they not been so eager to take the money on offer over the last 30 years or so it could have been?
"You can't have your cake and eat it" springs to mind.
"had they not been so eager to take the money on offer over the last 30 years"
Well said. At last, a comment made on logic and facts.
Which brings us to the question of why those who sold up should expect us to bend over backwards to provide affordable local housing for their children at the expense of our environment... Which is exactly what has happened at East Portlemouth!
Even without the influx of second home owners, do local people really think house prices in the SW area would still be at 1970's and 80's rates. Im sorry but housing inflation is prevalent throughout the UK and hasn't singled out the SW for special treatment. I would imagine there are quite a few people who would not be in a position to a buy a house regardless of market forces and use use second home owners to vent their frustration?
I grew up in Salcombe and now live in London, there is not a chance I could afford to move back to Salcombe. I would love to but there is not a job within 150 miles that would pay enough for me to be able to afford a house in Salcombe...so why should I be any different to anyone else who grew up in Salcombe, if you have to move to afford a house or get a decent job then so be it. THATS LIFE!
Wouldn't life be great if we didn't have to make sacrifices...
I now have to make do with visiting Salcombe whenever I can. But I still don't feel that I have a god given right to live in Salcombe.
Have people seen the "Housing Needs Survey" results on the Salcombe Town Council website.
Whats the opinion on the reports recommendation for 24 social housing units?
Based upon the survey on this site:
Is the "Strategic Housing Plan" good for Salcombe?
7% 7 people voted for
93% 93 people voted against the above.
Understandable, considering that there are not enough jobs in Salcombe to even house the locals who are actually living here already!
Come off of it Salcombe Council, stop trying to deceive everybody in Salcombe of your alterior motives!
On the basis there are more houses than jobs, why do we need 24 more?
All that will do is further degrade an AONB which in turn may affect Tourism and diminish Salcombe's economic plight?
There are enough overseas workers taking up positions in the UK, people will have to move to find jobs, in turn this free's up the houses needed for the elderly and vulnerable, BUT its a massive problem not easily solved without some tough policies!
No planning application is in place, so any lobbying has limited value, although the Shadycombe site has recently been cleared.
When an application is submitted I hope that the Salcombe Blog will be a mustering point for anyone who does not want this scheme to happen.
The Town Council is not effective, I doubt if Totnes will take any notice of the views of the TC. Two of its more savy members have resigned which concerns me. Almost all of the Town Councillors have an interest, in that they live on Beadon, so favour the Shadycombe site.
I have real concerns that the building of any affordable housing will encourage outsiders to move in and further depress the job market for locals.
No one has clarified what number of affordable houses is required by government, or whether any are required in Salcombe.
Anonymous who now lives in London makes a key point. Also the villages around Modbury, Kingsbridge, Morleigh etc. are far more affordable than living in Salcombe and offer a practical alternative for affordable living.
BE WARNED EVERYBODY..........The 'affordable housing' at the top of Salcombe wasnt really needed as living in Salcombe is not a necessesity if you work in Salcombe. Have any of the so called locals heard of commuting for Gods sake!!!!! There are available house in Kingsbridge where that small town has been ruined by cheapish homes!
The so called locals (whereby most of them are not infact local but moved here from further afar for an easy life) think that they should be given everything on a plate, cheap housing benefits, cheaper council tax, even better if you are pregnant!!!.
Get off your asses and find jobs that pay as everybody else has to!
INFACT, some of the people living in the affordable housing from what I have read on this blog have been sent down from Coventry to start a new life......NOW SOMETHING SMELLS FISHY TO ME.
More affordable housing should be delayed as it is not needed. End of!.....Look at the new housing allocation and see how much it is going to ruin the most beautiful parts of Salcombe.
If I can get a sea view without working hard, Im selling up my holiday home moving to Salcombe, getting my girlfriend pregnant and claiming poverty. Job done
Who ever commented regarding:
Is the "Strategic Housing Plan" good for Salcombe?
The results they put were incorrect.
They are:
Yes 10 (7%)
No 119 (92%)
So, it looks like the general conscensus is that 'the people' have spoken and do not want affordable housing spoiling this area of natural beauty.
ISNT THE REASON FOR HAVING A COUNCIL IS TO SPEAK FOR THE PEOPLE OF SALCOMBE!
THEY SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF THEMSELVES ALLOWING THE TOWN TO BE RUINED BY THE UNWANTED OVER DEVELOPMENT OF AFFORDABLE HOMES.
According to the survey results found on the Salcombe Town Council website, of the 580 (34.1%) respondents, 81% of people were in favour of a small local housing development. Of these returns, 82% were main home owners & 89% were second home owners??
Surprising results when you consider whats written on here?
Not really that surprising, the questionaire was loaded toward indicating a need for affordable housing, and comes on the heels of a lot of groundwork by prospective developers.
I don't think many people would object to very controlled development for locals, particularly if this used infill sites like the Bury and the land between Main Road and the existing affordable housing.
Two other thoughts, if the council hadn't sold off council houses this would not be a problem.
It is very probable that future housing will be on land sold off by the council a few years ago!
Of the approx 1700 homes in Salcombe 72% or so either did not reply or were not in favour.
I appreciate the Council cannot do much more than send the survey out but thats not democracy!
Sorry but if the council force this kind of planning through on the basis that 28% of residence may be in favour of the "small development" they should all resign without question.
Well said.
Any suggestions on how to get a "true" council survey including the second home people who were not able to comment through being unavailable or not receiving the form to give a "true" reading of how people feel about the unnecessary over development of Salcombe.
Two things.....
00devon - Can this blog be moved to its own forum, as this was a Cable Cottage discussion?
Are there any Councillors amongst us who fully understand the workings of Council office and what mandates can and cannot be proposed? i.e setting the minimum level of acceptance at 51% for any new social housing to be agreed? At the end of the day councils should represent the people!
00 Devon,
Please could you take all the comments including the people who made them, from this certain blog with reference to the affordable housing debacle, and place them under your new heading of 'Affordable housing' that you have set up.
It would then allow us locals to read about the exciting Cable cottage news.
Thankyou
That is wonderful news!
Infact I believe that the new Cable Cottage is now built, I havent been to Salcombe for just over 2 years.
I was a visitor/tourist for many years with my parents and grandparents about 30 years ago. Cable Cottage, Moult Lodge and the Tea Rooms were the iconic buildings that I remember in the wonderful, beautiful landscape that I treasure in my memory from fabulous childhood holidays.
But what happened to Moult Lodge? Was that pulled down too?
Does anyone have any photos?
I whimsically just did a google search for Cable Cottage and stumbled upon this. My parents bought and owned Cable Cottage and lived in it for years. I have many fond memories of renovating the house after the old lady lived in it. We spent months down at the house every year, both summer and winter. I have some of my best childhood memories there, playing on the beach, popping into the "winking prawn" for an ice cream, exploring the ruins and rock climbing round to south sands. They even had a ball in a marquee one year in the car park (then grass). Our neighbours, The Stumbles, were delightful and you could get one of the best cream teas in England next door!! The house always had a lean to it which strangely went away after a few beers!! It had subsided but finally came to a rest on a sunken ships anchor! Much as I am sad to hear it has been pulled down I still have my memories. If the new owners have half as good a time in their new house as I did in the old then they will live happy lives. Good luck to them
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